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Readers React:
Do Savings Come from Software -- Or From the Design Team?

 

"Google Buys PowerPoint Editor"

 

Out of the Inbox, and other regular columns.


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Readers React:
Do Savings Come from Software -- Or From the Design Team?

[Readers agreed and disagreed with Mr Market's guest editorial in upFront.eZine #513. And, they agreed and disagreed with each other. Oh, and the editor's father chimes in as well.]

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"Sorry Ralph,

"But I just had to reply to Gregor L. Markel's editorial.

"At last count, I believe we have had training wheels in general use within AutoCAD for the last 23 years. It's time to quit making excuses about how people cannot use AutoCAD correctly, and look for the real root cause: CAD managers who probably know far less than the drafting people on training wheels, who cannot bring themselves to send their drafters to a good CAD class so that they can become more efficient.

"You cannot expect the ordinary drafter to rise above expectations that are set for them. If CAD managers want the employees under their control to learn more about 2D and then 3D design, then CAD managers themselves need to set the pace, and set the bar ever higher. If CAD managers really believe that their employees are so incompetent and unwilling to learn new things, then it's time for managers to weed the garden. On the other hand, if CAD managers are unable to lead their brood, then maybe it's time for new and different CAD managers.

"Many professions require constant training and updating of skills. Would you go to a doctor who has not been back for additional medical training for 10 years? Why then is it different for design professionals to sit on their laurels and refuse to learn anything new? A mere hour or two into a basic well-taught AutoCAD class will have the students realizing how little they really know about the software that they use everyday.

"I learned drafting on the drawing board over 45 years ago; where would I be today (at age 60) if I had refused to learn new skills? I'd be in a different profession, not doing or teaching 2D and 3D design."
        - Dennis Jeffrey
        Tekni Consulting LLC

 

"In response to Mr. Markel, the same can be said for some architects and engineers. We do get our direction from these people, and some of them have no clue on what or how to get the project done and on time."
        - Marc Valade
        Ontario Canada

 

"I understand where Gregor Markel is coming from, but schools in the past have produced what industry needs. Unfortunately, the AEC [architecture, engineering, construction] field has been flawed for years:

  • No standards from firm to firm.
  • The link between suppliers and builders has been loose, to say the least.

"It is the mindset of the people who understand Building Information Modeling and teach it in the classroom that will finally revolutionize the AEC world. My CC [community college] kids are extracting information from models for energy analysis, estimating, scheduling and building code compliance and they are not even 'drafters'.

"What I'm afraid of is that when they join the job market, area architecture firms will be wanting 2D AutoCAD 2000. Also, support from the area's AEC firms and suppliers are less than generous in helping supply the tools to produce students who will actually make them money."
        - Harry Applin
        Tompkins Cortland Community College

 

"I absolutely agree that it makes no sense to put Revit -- or any other 3D tool -- in the hands of drafters. Revit is a design tool. Its strength comes from its ability to share information, link to various analysis tools, consider design alternatives, improve collaboration and reduce both RFIs and design errors. Drafting becomes primarily a byproduct of design.

"Companies that adopt it successfully almost always:

  • Develop an implementation game plan upfront, with clear management support.
  • Choose a suitable pilot project and team.
  • Develop and embed office standards in the software.
  • Take training and use outside support services
  • Take the time to evaluate lessons learned at the end of the pilot project.

"This is an iterative process. BIM [building information modeling] tools are a clear break from the drafting paradigm -- it takes a while to make the new process a seamless and productive part of an organization.

"Lastly, yes I am a sales rep (formerly an electrical engineer, by way of full disclosure). I also have had many of the same clients for over 10 years. I keep them by recommending software that is production-ready, by ramping up slowly, and by ensuring, as far as possible, that their investments will be worthwhile. In my experience, firms that have taken the approach I outlined above have been invariably successful with Revit -- as measured by their doing more projects in Revit and ordering more licenses."
        - Leonard Horowitz
        IMAGINiT Technologies

 

"I couldn't disagree with more with Markel's contention that there is a prerequisite of learning one CAD method before taking on another. The main problem I see with people attempting 3D modeling is that they are still thinking in 2D planes. I submit that the 2D environment should be skipped for all new CAD operators, and dive right into 3D CAD -- after building technology training. The analogy of getting accustomed to training wheels for 2D CAD is akin to putting training wheels on a tricycle.

 "Another fallacy of the argument is relying on the traditional 'drafter' concept. In my opinion, CAD is no longer for the 'red-to-black' drafters of the 20th century. Today's CAD operators DO need an understanding of the built-environment. The CAD operator needs to be able to make sound design decisions as he goes along, not waiting on instruction from above.

 "As CAD software moves further and further toward eliminating the tedium from the CD process, more attention can be placed on the production of quality products with fewer design defects and errors and omissions.

 "The traditional analog office consisted of a pyramid of design personnel. A typical scenario was: one architect directs 2 senior design supervisors, who each directed 2 designers, who each directed 2 senior drafters, who directed each 2 junior drafters.

"Today, I can do the same amount of work with one senior designer in 1/4 the time, as long as I can exploit the software to its potential. So, does anyone see the savings?"
        - Charles A. Graham, Jr.
        AIA NCARB

 

"Switching from 2D to 3D has cut my design-to-fabrication drawing time down to 1/3 or 1/4, depending on the project. What formerly required a week can be done in a day. What formerly took a month can be done in a week or so. However, the program has its limitations on the big projects.

"It seems like every project manager undergoes a break-in period with me. Following sticker shock, they drop me, then hire a draftsman to do my job. Shortly thereafter they discover that he's 'just a draftsman'.

"In a word: magic lines, the kind that on paper enable a conveyor to be installed in the middle of a building column; or a nozzle that's on the inside of a vessel to be connected to a hose on the outside.

"What never ceases to amaze me is how adept management is at trusting liars who lose them untold profits, yet hold suspect the honest straight-shooters, who through competence save them millions?"
        - Chris H

 

"Mr. Markel makes some good points about CAD operators and/or drafters lacking technical ability. Most companies have cut back their training budgets, and employees are not learning how to use the software the way it should be used.  Whatever happened to sending a whole drafting department to update training? Most users are left to flounder on their own.  

"However, the problem does not end with an insufficient knowledge of CAD. The another problem is that they are not taught how to DRAW when they are in school. Those of us that used a pencil went through rigorous training on drafting principles, methods, and techniques.

"Too many instructors today assume that teaching a student how to use the software is good enough. They show them the FILLET command and that's as far as they take it. The student doesn't know why a fillet starts and ends where it does or what to do if the fillet is too short or too long. The software does not handle every situation, and os you have to know how to figure it out.

"In our classes we teach our students how to draw first, CAD second. Once they know how to draw properly, they can overcome any software shortcomings.

"Most companies are in close proximity to a college, community college, or technical school. I would suggest that getting involved with them. Become a member of an advisory board. At the very least tell them what kind of training you need. Trust me, they need your input even if they don't know it yet. Schools will schedule special classes if there is enough interest."
        - Jeffrey A. Laurich
        Fox Valley Technical College

 

"I eagerly read the lead article 'Do Savings Come from Software -- Or the Design Team? - Some Drafters Lack Deep Knowledge', because that question was foremost in my mind after editing some of your e-books, having been in the shoes of a draftsman myself. I cannot see where a trained draftsman could learn-on-the-fly to switch from a pencil to a CAD program, or vise versa."
        - Herbert Grabowski (a.k.a "Dad")

 

"No matter how good the software is, if the user is poor then savings will be non-existent.

 "I believe the problem is very basic, draughtsmen (as we call drafters in the UK) are no longer taught how to draw, they are only taught how to use a CAD program. As someone who started off with technical drawing at school, served a five-year drawing office apprenticeship, and worked for many years in a drawing office, I had a deep knowledge of drawing construction and techniques before I used my first CAD program in the early 1980s.

 "Today, I see what I can only describe as 'CAD technicians', who have experience of mainly AutoCAD, but no idea how to construct basic geometry, how a drawings views relate to one another, or worst of all, cannot understand what they are drawing. I get fed up continually having to rotate 3D models from the plan to isometric so that the 'technician' can understand just what they are drawing and why it is wrong.

 "We need to start off by teaching the basics of drawing before moving on to 2D CAD and finally 3D modeling. Schools and colleges should start at the beginning and not jump in at the deep end with 3D. It will only be then that the full benefits of CAD, both 2D and 3D, will be realized."
        - Roger Chadwick|
        Richaire Limited

The editor responds: "Some won't be able to make the jump from basic drafting to building modeling -- whether they are currently at the CAD drafter or the CAD manager level. For others who understand how BIM works, this is a great opportunity."

 


"Google Buys PowerPoint Editor"

...is one of dozens of headlines last week describing another of Google's acquisition. Nicholas Carr of 'Rough Type' [now there's a blog name I like] explains it best:

    "As with Google Docs and Google Spreadsheets, Google seems to be designing Google Presentations as a hybrid complement/competitor to Microsoft's Office applications. You first use them as add-on tools for manipulating and sharing Microsoft files online, and then, eventually, you find that you don't need the underlying applications anymore.

    "Google Apps, in other words, is designed not as an Office Killer but rather as a kind of Office Bodysnatcher. Google doesn't want to fight the Microsoft apps head-on. It wants to get inside them, and slowly take them over."

Which makes me wonder if this approach is possible in the CAD world. Does Google think about extending SketchUp to body-snatch DWG in a similar manner?

www.roughtype.com/archives/2007/04/google_buys_pow.php

  


Out of the Inbox

[Announcements of new and updated products.]

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Suite75 launches online design software at www.floorplanner.com (requires latest release of Flash), a simple 2D CAD program for interactively creating and share floorplans.

LightWork Design releases LightWorks 7.7 with higher performance of photorealistic rendering, support for Vista, and enhanced multi-threading support. www.lightworkdesign.com/news/pr.php?id=127

Dosch Design ships many new products, including Dosch 3D: Clothing, Car Design Kit, Comic Characters, and Trees & Conifers for Maxwell Render.  www.doschdesign.com

Cimmetry Systems's AutoVue obtains 'Works with Vista' Logo Certification. www.cimmetry.com

Gibbs and Associates announces 3-axis enhancements for GibbsCAM, such as rest milling (machine only remaining material to be removed), multiple containment areas (precise control of toolpaths), no sharp corners (optimized for high-speed machining), and slope consideration (true constant step over). www.GibbsCAM.com

Lattice Technology ships Lattice3D Reporter (US$1,995) for generating reports on 3D XVL data, as well as linking 3D geometry with spreadsheet info. [Press release includes this hopeful note: "Lattice Technology plans to ship 4,000 copies for the first year."] www.lattice3d.com

And UGS announces Tecnomatix Version 8 software for digital manufacturing solutions, with enhancements in PLM integration and process planning and simulation. www.ugs.com/products/tecnomatix/tecnomatix8   

 - - -

These news items were posted during the last week at the WorldCAD Access blog <worldcadaccess.typepad.com>:

  • Welcome to UGS' Second Life Neighbourhood
  • Look Out, Catia: Rhino for Architecture
  • upComing eVents
  • tmatt on vtech
  • CAD Goes Web 2.0
  • Cyco Changes Name To...

 And at the Gizmos Grabowski <worldcadaccess.typepad.com/gizmos/> Weblog:

  • Digitizing Home Movies
  • No, Mr Jobs, I Won't Pay $1.29 Per Song
  • Great New Nora Jones CD!
  • V-Mate Recording Tip

 


Hardware News

By using thicker layers (0.013", .330 mm) suited to large geometry, Stratasys says their FDM Titan and FDM Vantage rapid prototyping systems are 40% faster using ABS plastic. www.Stratasys.com  

 


Seminars & Conferences

COE (CATIA Operators Exchange) 2007 Annual PLM Conference & TechniFair is Apr 29 - May 2 in Las Vegas NV USA. (I'll be attending this event.) www.coe.org/EventsEducation/AnnualConferenceTechniFair/tabid/211/Default.aspx

DIME Rhino 4.0 is June 1-2 in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. (I'll be attending this event.) www2.mcneel.com/tradeshows/tradeshows.asp

PTC/USER World Event 2007 is June 3-6 in Tampa FL USA. www.ptcuserworldevent.com

 


People/Companies on the Move

Cyco Software changes its name to "BlueCielo ECM Solutions," and its AutoManager product line to "InnoCielo." www.bluecieloecm.com

 


Brand New CAD Books/eBooks

"Learning VB.NET Programming Concepts"
Pubished by CADCIM Publishing.
www.cadcimtech.com

 

"What's Inside? AutoCAD 2008"
by Ralph Grabowski
Published by upFront.eZine Publishing
110 pages; PDF US$16.50
www.upfrontezine.com/wia8


WorthWhile Web

http://talk.bmc.com/blogs/blog-whurley/whurley/opensville
"Welcome to Opensville, Population Zero"
|by William Hurley

 

http://blog.guykawasaki.com/2007/04/the_essence_of_.html
"The Essence of Duct Tape Marketing"
Commentary by Guy Kawasaki on John Jantsch's book.

 


Letters to the Editor

Re: UGS NX5

"I just wanted to comment about the NX release announcement where you stated 'I think the ability to switch arbitrarily between history and non-history editing is unique to NX -- but I could be wrong.'

"IronCAD has supported this capability from its inception. This is one of IronCAD's key selling points within our target markets."
        - Cary O'Connor, director of product marketing
        IronCAD

 

"We've had this since 1999. Plus, you don't have to switch, you can mix."
        - Robert Bou, ceo
        Ashlar-Vellum

 

"I'd like to point you to the German CAD system HiCAD neXt < http://www.isdcad.com >, which allows users to switch between history and non-history design and editing. This technology already exists more then 15 years.

"Although HiCAD neXt is unknown in the USA, it is pretty big in Europe and growing fast in Japan and India. Some (mostly European originated) companies in the USA also use HiCAD, but there is no official reseller in the USA."
        - Marcel de Klein, CAD application consultant
        isdcad.nl

 

"I your article about NX5, you mention 'CATIA pricing'. How up to date with CATIA are you? Over the past six months there have some very big changes that CATIA is packaged and offered. Thanks, I enjoy reading the articles on your site."
        - Andy Reilly, business development director
        CATIA

The editor replies: "Not very, since Dassault marketing pushes PLM at the expense of CAD."

 

"I know you meant 'Siemens Releases NX-Funf' [German for 5], but maybe the rebranding has been delayed a bit?"
        - Name withheld of snarky competitor.

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Re: New Release of Pro/E

"You (and that means most people) are mixed up with our packages and our releases. I take the blame for this. Packages are:

  • Foundation XE
  • Advanced SE
  • etc.

"Releases are:

  • 2000i
  • 2000i2 (squared)
  • Wildfire 1.0
  • Wildfire 2.0
  • Wildfire 3.0

"Pro/ENGINEER precedes both packages and releases. Hence we can say Pro/ENGINEER Foundation XE (the package) is $4995 and if you buy today, you will get the Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 3.0 release.

"Long story, but suffice to say that since Wildfire (1.0) was such a makeover of Pro/E that we made a big deal about it -- and folks (mainly outside PTC) used it interchangeably with Pro/ENGINEER. All you have seen recently is a little stricter policy on usage. A case study in brand management."
        - Gearoid Smyth, SMB marketing director
        PTC

 


Spin Doctor of the Moment

"PC Mag is another. I have a free sub but it goes in the trash."
        - Steve Rubel, senior vp, Edelman public relations
         
http://twitter.com/steverubel/statuses/26737381

 


Notable Quotable

"Everybody can have a theory; you have 300 people and 99 percent of them are non-specialists; I cannot let them all go on to the site."
        - Zahi Hawass, head of Egypt's antiquities department, denies French architect Jean Pierre Houdin request to test his pyramid construction theory.
        
newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/world/view_article.php?article_id=59625

 


 


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